We recognise we cannot dismantle and empower (or be empowered) without first learning ourselves. We must dive deeper into ourselves in order to unlearn the harmful, restrictive and unprogressive. It’s an ongoing practise and journey for us all, which is why we created this podcast. We both have our fair share of stories, have experienced the glass ceiling, the microaggressions, the rejections, traumas, and have had some incredible adventures.